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Chopper Rollins
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Posted - 2017.03.29 01:39:01 -
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Bjorn Tyrson wrote: you do know that in the early days, back in beta, high sec didn't even exist right? that implies that the "natural" state of eve. as originally designed, had ZERO safety mechanics in place.
even a after that happened concord was MUCH slower, and much weaker, it was only after the dev's caved to player pressure that it was made as overly safe as it is now.
so saying that the "replacement dev's are ignorant" is blatantly false. if anything they should be pushing high-sec back, to make it even more dangerous, if they really wanted to respect the original spirit of the game.
If memory serves, the "player pressure" that dev's supposedly caved to was not the complaints of the incompetent but the uncontrolled and rampant toasting of CONCORD by players who were organised and disciplined.
It seems to me the Empires are losing their hold on high and low security space, lore-wise, perhaps in preparation for the overweening power of capsuleers to reduce hisec to a few starter constellations. That would work very well, since endless harvesting of the crumbs in the rookie pond is the problem as i see it.
Declaring others flawed because they disagree can be funny, but still irrelevant.
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Posted - 2017.03.30 14:40:48 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Gregorius Goldstein wrote:I would like to see one "I don't want to PVP at all" mega-thread like we have a "cloaky camper" mega thread. What I don't get:
OP flies and fights in low-sec but does not want to fight?
There are so many games without PVP that let you mine, grind, craft and build without ever losing anything eveer to other players. Why does the one game without a hippie zone need one too? Because those 'hippies' are basically just THE BORG. EVERYTHING must conform to their needs and worldview, nothing must be allowed to survive outside of it. If there was a room with 100 tables in it, and 99 of those tables had a game of Checkers on them and only one table had a Chess board on it, the kinds of people who complain about EVE would be in that room begging the game masters to make that last table another game of Checkers. It's just in their nature. Their screwed up, hippie, drum circle'n, PvP hatin, "think of the damn children" SJW natures lol.
People who you disagree with are flawed and can be lumped into a general category? Nah. Everyone has seen these threads before, many times.
What never gets mentioned is that some people can't PVP. I mean physically can't, they freeze in any combat situation and no amount of practice, training or experience does much to change that. I think the stats from Vietnam were that 3 out of ten did not fire their weapons during contact.
Some of that demographic are the sort to talk a lot of crap. Not all, some of them are great people with many skills and no shortage of intelligence, they just can't fight, even in a computer game. It really is physiological, the simplest actions become too complex and they can't even communicate over comms faced with aggro.
Now i'm not saying they need an area of eve where there's no violence allowed, just suggesting that they team up with combat players to create one.
The moralistic players who get all het up about PVP, be advised, you will never convince anyone that EvE is troubled by PVP or losing anything by it. These threads are your impotent venting.
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Posted - 2017.03.31 00:26:03 -
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YOU LIKE SPAECSHIPS? YOU NO LIKE HISEC SHENANIGANS?
Get out of hisec.
YOU NO LEAVE HISEC? YOU GET BEAT IN FAEC AND ANUS ALL DAY ERR DAY?
Tough luck.
YOU USE BRAINS AND TIME TO CLING TO HISEC LIEK BIONIC TICK FOR THAT DANK 6M ISK PER HOUR?
inb4 i make trillions daily in hisec
These threads are just awful.
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Posted - 2017.03.31 02:01:45 -
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Mr Mieyli wrote:.... So the 'using brain' decision is to get out of highsec, which brings me back to my original statement, get rid of wardecs or get rid of highsec, at least then player expectations would match reality.
Just no. You do not change the game to match player expectations, you change it to make it better. Don't you know anything about human nature? Heaven is a place, where nothing can ever happen. Paradise on the other hand is where the environment and your needs meet perfectly. Hisec needs to be a sorta safe shallow rookie pond. Lowsec is where you flex growing muscles. Null and WH are the real game.
People who stay for years in hisec become fat prey that encourage parasites and predators. The whole hisec ecosystem beyond rookie level stuff is a miserable joke.
Luckily, that miserable joke isn't really eve, just the troubled starter area.
Get out of hisec for rice caeks.
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Posted - 2017.04.01 03:04:10 -
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Hisec is beginner space, for mining, mission running, pvp, exploration, everything. All the mining i've done since 2011 has been in nullsec because everywhere else it isn't worth it.
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Posted - 2017.04.01 14:56:58 -
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Gentle reminder that all EvE PVE is only there to make you PVP fodder. This facilitates more complex interactions than separation / protection / arenas / whatever.
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Posted - 2017.04.02 09:28:51 -
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Anything but get out of hisec, huh guys?
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Posted - 2017.04.02 13:22:00 -
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Then move their food away, ie out of hisec.
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Posted - 2017.04.02 14:43:56 -
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Mr Mieyli wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:-- Could easily say the same for gankers, why not get out of highsec.
I'd like to see ganking go back to a more solo enterprise where the individual would be trying to make a profit--
Then move their food away, ie out of hisec. How do you suggest that happens? Gankers will be in highsec as long as targets are, as long as players are. Gankers will be in highsec, in it's current form, until it is empty.
If you're rich enough to make killing you profitable, you shouldn't be in hisec. This is getting so old, if people insist on living in hisec for so long, they attract that playstyle. Therefore, no complaining, the problem isn't flies, it's all the garbage.
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Posted - 2017.04.03 01:35:28 -
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Aaron wrote:Aaron wrote:
This is a clear description of the environment we are in and it has been programmed this way to make us think more about our actions within the game, it prompts us to think things like having an escort to rep our armour for example we can rep until the hostile fleet is concorded.
Speaking from a real life point of view I think a very harsh virtual reality such as Eve is an interesting way for a games company to make money. It still has lots of appeal to people like me who like the difficulty level at maximum. I believe the original design of Eve belonged to a man named Thorolfur Beck who was the majority share holder. It is said that there was some difficulty with his desire to control everything and had difficulty dealing with the stress of creating one of the first MMO's. He left CCP before beta was released. Would be interesting to read his take on this. Who knows maybe CCP and this Beck person may start working together on Eve again..
You quoted yourself?!? Hisec shenanigans are a minor thing that has at every change encouraged people to leave hisec. Crimewatch is a baffling ordeal of a card trick. Hisec wars are mostly for interrupting null competitor's logistics, the rest is just to help stay awake picking off bads. If there was a null jita and/or stuff was made out there hisec violence would be less fun and less profitable.
Aaron wrote: Would be interesting to read his take on this. Who knows maybe CCP and this Beck person may start working together on Eve again..
Thorolfur pls go?
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Posted - 2017.04.03 22:44:22 -
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oiukhp Muvila wrote:... Eve has become too focused on a few game design ideals to appeal to the larger player base that it used to appeal to. And so many are totally blind to that.
Now i couldn't take part in a conversation on game design for long without revealing the shallowness of my knowledge, but i'm pretty sure EvE has always been a niche game. I'm also sure that games that appeal to large player bases are generally lame in every particular.
Threads where players blerf about game design and where CCP should go business-wise have always sounded to me like the pin-headed hooting of ravers who yell at the DJ: "Ay have ya got that choon that goes dunka-dishka dunka-dishka?"
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